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roland cube street ex
« on: December 13, 2017, 11:45:08 am »
picked one up for the fujara...  the really quiet overtone contra bass flute...   i have it mic'ed up with an akg headset element attached to the head of the flute, running into an akg wireless mic system that sounds much better than the old shure sm10 element...  ( which would be easier without the extra cordless stuff.)  for gits and shiggles i ran everything through an octa bass pedal for some really stupidly lush lows...     a nice helping of reverb and way too much delay and its an intergalactic siberian shepherds flute!  the roland has a decent reverb, and the delay is perfect for my intentions...  its not super controllable but for a simple grab and go, battery powered option amplifier, its pretty cool...    it has 8 AA batteries in the batt pack, and a laptop style power cord... supposed to get phenomenal battery life so synchronize your watches i just put in a fresh set of duracells.  ( ive noticed no difference in the sound so far between batteries and wall power) i may actually dust off an electric or two and maybe plug in a real mic and uncase an acoustic...  but tonight im headed to a sound healers circle...   they expect gongs and bowls but tonight is flutes and hang...   i ought to try micing the hang with this thing,,,, hmmmmm... i have a couple electret condensers and some goosenecks... 

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 06:34:42 pm »
picked one up for the fujara...  the really quiet overtone contra bass flute...   i have it mic'ed up with an akg headset element attached to the head of the flute, running into an akg wireless mic system that sounds much better than the old shure sm10 element...  ( which would be easier without the extra cordless stuff.)  for gits and shiggles i ran everything through an octa bass pedal for some really stupidly lush lows...     a nice helping of reverb and way too much delay and its an intergalactic siberian shepherds flute!  the roland has a decent reverb, and the delay is perfect for my intentions...  its not super controllable but for a simple grab and go, battery powered option amplifier, its pretty cool...    it has 8 AA batteries in the batt pack, and a laptop style power cord... supposed to get phenomenal battery life so synchronize your watches i just put in a fresh set of duracells.  ( ive noticed no difference in the sound so far between batteries and wall power) i may actually dust off an electric or two and maybe plug in a real mic and uncase an acoustic...  but tonight im headed to a sound healers circle...   they expect gongs and bowls but tonight is flutes and hang...   i ought to try micing the hang with this thing,,,, hmmmmm... i have a couple electret condensers and some goosenecks...

Would love to hear some of that!

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2017, 09:20:09 am »
im impressed!   ran the roland on battery power all night and it performed quite well...   i was a couple hours early so i went to the local guitar center and picked up a senn lav wireless mic system to replace my old akg uhf unit that only works if you hold the wire between your teeth while standing in a water puddle...  it was time.   
the roland kept up with 12 people playing various gongs djembes. frame drums, didges, and even a trombone!  it was set on the mid level wattage 20?  ( i should read the manual)  and volume was about 1/4 or less.  i had a tough time determining if what i was hearing was feedback developing or gongs and singing bowls going off...  a little of both at times, im sure...  mic and speaker placement...  the fujara was able to be heard over all of it and allowed me to blend or stand out pretty much by breath control alone...  no, it isnt the qsc pa with the yorkville subs thats siting in the trailer... but i can pick it up with one hand, sling the goodies bag over my shoulder and carry everything in one trip if im just playing the fujara...   

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2017, 06:19:55 pm »
im impressed!   ran the roland on battery power all night and it performed quite well...   i was a couple hours early so i went to the local guitar center and picked up a senn lav wireless mic system to replace my old akg uhf unit that only works if you hold the wire between your teeth while standing in a water puddle...  it was time.   
the roland kept up with 12 people playing various gongs djembes. frame drums, didges, and even a trombone!  it was set on the mid level wattage 20?  ( i should read the manual)  and volume was about 1/4 or less.  i had a tough time determining if what i was hearing was feedback developing or gongs and singing bowls going off...  a little of both at times, im sure...  mic and speaker placement...  the fujara was able to be heard over all of it and allowed me to blend or stand out pretty much by breath control alone...  no, it isnt the qsc pa with the yorkville subs thats siting in the trailer... but i can pick it up with one hand, sling the goodies bag over my shoulder and carry everything in one trip if im just playing the fujara...

Glad it worked out for you! Sounds like you gotta game plan, or at least a good jump off point to experiment more!


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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2017, 09:12:52 pm »
Further thoughts...You maybe breaking some new ground? I mean..Are you logging what you do insofar as setups and the like when you are recording these things?

I don't know...I'm just thinking there perhaps aren't many people doing what you do, and what knowledge you glean from what works well and what does not might prove valuable to others down the road.

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2017, 09:00:25 am »
i guess i pissed them off at hc sound forum...   i asked the experts and got one guess...  lol, oh well...  gongs are like micing up a piano... sounds easier than it is...   anyhow, the futujara, contrabass flute with key change capabilities, made it to jacksonville yesterday and should be on its way here!   
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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2017, 08:07:34 pm »
i guess i pissed them off at hc sound forum...   i asked the experts and got one guess...  lol, oh well...  gongs are like micing up a piano... sounds easier than it is...   anyhow, the futujara, contrabass flute with key change capabilities, made it to jacksonville yesterday and should be on its way here!   
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I saw your post there. I didn't think you were out of line at all. There are people in all those forums that have a lot of knowledge...And some that are just blowing a lot of smoke. That goes for most forums I've been to however.

Obviously, those people weren't aware of the Veracity of Voltan. One must respect the Voltan. When the Benevolent one makes an inquiry, one should not respond unless they have a pure and proven truth to reveal.

No illicit substances were involved in the composition of this post.
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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2017, 09:16:04 pm »
thanks, but ive had more input here about mics...    i read all the numbers, but hands on experience tells me more...  no illicit substances? im sorry...

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2017, 10:32:56 pm »
thanks, but ive had more input here about mics...    i read all the numbers, but hands on experience tells me more...  no illicit substances? im sorry...

Well yeah, me too. About the lack of illicit substance thing. I imbibed in herbal essence for over twenty years...Daily, and Nightly. Then the Wee Lad entered my life and I put it aside for all the obvious reasons.

I don't miss "The Hunt" for it at all..The paranoia involved in procurement and transport...Remember, I live in Texas. But man I do miss the vibe and tranquility it produced for me.

Your quest to record your musical experience is of great interest to me, and I think Bucky as well. I love nuts and bolts conversations about  recording and tonal pursuits. I feel really comfortable with all here.

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2017, 06:29:49 am »
this place is the most comfortable.   im glad you dragged me out of my shell...thanks

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2017, 05:54:49 pm »
this place is the most comfortable.   im glad you dragged me out of my shell...thanks

Thank you for coming...And staying!

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2017, 09:45:01 pm »
the futujara arrived a couple days ago... hence my absence.  i took it to the park today but fr the life of me cant dl the video? oh well this may work... again, cans are a must...  https://soundcloud.com/stoneheart-1/audiozoomtestfutujara

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 10:25:40 pm »
I thought it was a cool piece Dudley!
A bit of wind noise in there, but that's to be expected when recording in the elements...And it kind of fits in there really. Your playing is really good.
I think it could stand the scrutiny of a bit more volume...

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2017, 08:16:56 pm »
same mic running a line matching transformer and into the instrument (1/4") same channel of the roland.  changed position of mic to directly north of the air aperture, entire sm10 mic body a minimum of 1/4" above opening and 1/16" off the face of the flute.  changed the mic on the zoom Q8 back to the stock A/B stereo mic and placed amp in front of the zoom.

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Re: roland cube street ex
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2017, 10:12:48 pm »
Jeezus Jamie!  That absolutely rocks! There's this distorted quality to the flute that just cuts right through, and slapback, however you achieved it is just shattering!

Jeezus!