Author Topic: Bandlab.... (Read 82 times)

AJ · « **on:** February 25, 2018, 04:03:28 pm »

,,,Anybody have any experience with it?

I'd never heard of it until this weekend when I read at HC that they had bought the intellectual property of Cakewalk. Being a Sonar user, and the abandonment of same by Gibson, I was intrigued enough to check out the website.

https://www.bandlab.com/

Looks like you can collaborate online with others, albeit not as clumsily as we did at Brain Vomit....There seems to even be real time abilities with the platform....

Think I may sign up, just to be a lurker and see what it's all about.

Haven't felt particularly creative or collaborative lately.

Edit:
I checked out several of the tunes in the "Rock" category. Nothing that really stuck with me. I think most, if not all of this stuff is being recorded utilizing the DAW that comes with the app...And being recorded on telephones...Several of the tunes I heard were very poorly mixed...As to be almost laughable.

Still....I just listened to around 12 tunes and not all of them all the way through.

indigo_dave · « **Reply #1 on:** February 26, 2018, 07:35:23 am »

I just googled Bandlab and one of the search results was the item linked below. Bandlab is a company in Singapore. A couple of years ago they bought a 49% share of Rolling Stone. Yeah, the magazine. Hopefully they have deep pockets.

https://musicindustryblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/just-what-is-bandlab-up-to-with-rolling-stone/

AJ · « **Reply #2 on:** February 26, 2018, 08:21:03 pm »

Quote from: indigo_dave on February 26, 2018, 07:35:23 am

I just googled Bandlab and one of the search results was the item linked below. Bandlab is a company in Singapore. A couple of years ago they bought a 49% share of Rolling Stone. Yeah, the magazine. Hopefully they have deep pockets.

https://musicindustryblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/just-what-is-bandlab-up-to-with-rolling-stone/

Interesting stuff...Rolling Stone hasn't been what it once was for decades....Like all print media, they are living on borrowed time really. The theory put forth by the writer as to why it was bought rings true. I checked out a bit more Bandlab offerings.....I'm way too old to get involved in all that. <ostly sounds like a bunch of noise to me.

bieke · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2018, 04:54:47 am »

BandLab also acquired of Heritage guitars last year
Heritage was originally founded by old Kalamazoo crew of Gibson
Heritage also hired Edwin Wilson, the former head of the Gibson Custom Shop
but recently they laid off 14 of their skilled craftsmen, not in a nice way
but anyway, Bandlab is also hiring and two of the main Sonar developers are already back at work.
http://wwmt.com/news/local/14-heritage-guitar-workers-off-the-job-as-company-heads-in-new-direction

similar move at Gibson earlier this week
Henry is doing some spring cleaning and is shopping around with a 5 year plan to find new investors
but current debtholders want Henry out

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/music-business/article/20994206/gibson-lays-off-staff-in-nashville-custom-shop

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/music-business/article/20993464/gibson-ceo-confident-in-refi-prospects-amid-spring-cleaning

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2018/02/20/gibson-creditors-are-said-to-want-new-ceo-before-funding-rescue

indigo_dave · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2018, 07:52:19 am »

I've never owned a Gibson guitar, but it makes me a bit sad to see established American icons struggling. This includes (for me) JC Penney and Sears. The Sears store I'd known for more than 50 years recently closed. Next thing I knew it was razed.

I guess these things are part of the some sort of natural business cycle. I'm glad that Sonar seems to be surviving.

dinkleburg · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2018, 10:01:28 am »

Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front age, it seemed to me.

OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other players over the interwebz.

AJ · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2018, 07:06:56 pm »

Quote from: dinkleburg on March 05, 2018, 10:01:28 am

Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front age, it seemed to me.

OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other players over the interwebz.

Do tell?

dinkleburg · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2018, 09:10:39 am »

Quote from: AJ on March 05, 2018, 07:06:56 pm

Quote from: dinkleburg on March 05, 2018, 10:01:28 am
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front age, it seemed to me.

OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other players over the interwebz.

Do tell?

Well, on the tech side of things I learned that some MP3 encoders will add or remove space at the beginning of a track, thus messing up the track synchronization. The upshot of this is that you should use WAV files whenever possible. The free version of Kompoz only allows MP3's, so they use sync tones. A sync tone is a tone at the beginning of a project which the engineer can use to align all of the tracks so that they stay synced.

On the life side of things, I learned to develop a thick skin and open mind when collaborating. You (I) need to accept that after you upload your contribution, it is quite likely the recipient will chop it up, cut out parts and shuffle other parts around to his/her own liking and add whatever effects and processing sounds good to his or her ear. These changes may differ greatly from your original concept. One needs to go with the flow, so to speak. It took me a while to figure this one out.

AJ · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2018, 09:22:17 pm »

Quote from: dinkleburg on March 06, 2018, 09:10:39 am

Quote from: AJ on March 05, 2018, 07:06:56 pm
Quote from: dinkleburg on March 05, 2018, 10:01:28 am
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front age, it seemed to me.

OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other players over the interwebz.

Do tell?

Well, on the tech side of things I learned that some MP3 encoders will add or remove space at the beginning of a track, thus messing up the track synchronization. The upshot of this is that you should use WAV files whenever possible. The free version of Kompoz only allows MP3's, so they use sync tones. A sync tone is a tone at the beginning of a project which the engineer can use to align all of the tracks so that they stay synced.

On the life side of things, I learned to develop a thick skin and open mind when collaborating. You (I) need to accept that after you upload your contribution, it is quite likely the recipient will chop it up, cut out parts and shuffle other parts around to his/her own liking and add whatever effects and processing sounds good to his or her ear. These changes may differ greatly from your original concept. One needs to go with the flow, so to speak. It took me a while to figure this one out.

The sync thing has been a bugaboo in my limited experience. My entire online collab thing was with the Vomiteers however.
There were sync problems all the time.

It was great fun though. Bieke always had some surprises up his sleeve, and while some of my stuff ended up on the cutting room floor, the songs were better for it.

For my money, Bieke was the workhorse and you were the star of that little band,

dinkleburg · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2018, 05:30:30 pm »

Quote from: AJ on March 06, 2018, 09:22:17 pm

Quote from: dinkleburg on March 06, 2018, 09:10:39 am
Quote from: AJ on March 05, 2018, 07:06:56 pm
Quote from: dinkleburg on March 05, 2018, 10:01:28 am
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front age, it seemed to me.

OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other players over the interwebz.

Do tell?

Well, on the tech side of things I learned that some MP3 encoders will add or remove space at the beginning of a track, thus messing up the track synchronization. The upshot of this is that you should use WAV files whenever possible. The free version of Kompoz only allows MP3's, so they use sync tones. A sync tone is a tone at the beginning of a project which the engineer can use to align all of the tracks so that they stay synced.

On the life side of things, I learned to develop a thick skin and open mind when collaborating. You (I) need to accept that after you upload your contribution, it is quite likely the recipient will chop it up, cut out parts and shuffle other parts around to his/her own liking and add whatever effects and processing sounds good to his or her ear. These changes may differ greatly from your original concept. One needs to go with the flow, so to speak. It took me a while to figure this one out.

The sync thing has been a bugaboo in my limited experience. My entire online collab thing was with the Vomiteers however.
There were sync problems all the time.

It was great fun though. Bieke always had some surprises up his sleeve, and while some of my stuff ended up on the cutting room floor, the songs were better for it.

For my money, Bieke was the workhorse and you were the star of that little band,

Agreed about bieke. The dude did most of the heavy lifting. Thanks, bieke!

I don't think the Vomiteers really had a "star". I prefer to think of it as something that is greater than the sum of its parts. I could never come up with music like that on my own, that's for sure.

AJ · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2018, 06:32:10 pm »

All your sax parts absolutely Killed Dan...Those tuba parts you came up with for "Last Call" were genius really...It would never have occurred to me for a Tuba...To fit in...Anywhere really.....They were so perfect the song didn't need a bass track.

You're too modest...You shone like the Sun on those tunes...

The Basement

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